[Elena]

So, just a news-yesterday in the evening I needed to buy a bottle of whiskey & couldn't do it, because (& this is the BIG NEWS for me)-"The alcoholic drinks are stronger than 12-14 degrees not sold after 10 pm"....It was in the "Azbuka Vkusa", I was trying to explain I wouldn't drink it at the street right now, because I'm buying it as a gift & la-la-la..... 2 misapplied articles; 2 spelling mistakes
So,the alcohol and health are back in the limelight:)))) Missing verb
Returning from the store ang opening a bottle of the good red wine, I found out in on the Internet the new project of our government "The Healthy Russia") The Ministry of Health recommends strongly not to drink at all. 2 misused articles And it doesn't matter whether wine or vodka or beer& cocktails. As usual-"2 in 1". Spelling! And I've a question:" WHO NEEDS IT?" Who needs that you can't drink a glass of wine and drive after? I'm sure all of these people who drinks a bottle of vodka and drives after will always do this whether we've the law or not.
Who needs that you can't buy an alcohol after 10 pm? It doesn't work for people who buys drinks not in the store like "Azbuka" or who buys something stronger than whiskey...after 10 pm:)
Why create restrictions for normal and young people? Maybe it is better to teach them to drink good wine instead for ex. "Gin&Tonic",isn't? The more culture of drinking we've the less problems or?

[Bill Stickers]

The nanny state is here to protect us from ourselves. Actually, this law has been in effect since last September, and it only applies to beverages that have more than 15% alcohol, so we can still buy wine and beer at any time. Not port or sherry, though. It is, of course, a poor consolation to know that someone else has it worse, but in Canada and most Nordic countries, for example, the sale of alcohol is a government monopoly. In Finland you can't buy anything that contains more than 1.5% ABV after 9 pm. Who are we to try to arrest the march of progress?

[Dmblock]

In general the low dose of alcohol consumption is associated with a reduced risk of cardiovascular outcomes. The most highly cited papers quantify the low dose as 10–20 grams of alcohol per day. However consumption of larger amounts of alcohol associates with higher risks of cardiovascular events. Actually most of our people don't feel this limitation. Therefore I think Russian doctors shouldn’t recommend any dose of alcohol for their patient.

I am sure that absence of alcohol sales at night isn’t a big problem. If someone wants a drink he can do it in some bars or pubs. On the other hand anybody can buy any number of alcoholic drinks in good time.

This post has been edited by Dmblock: 16 July 2011 - 09:43 AM

[Lily]

I agree that it isn't a big problem. There is a big problem that young people can simply buy alcohol drinks. I read a story about two girls of 13 or 14 ears who bought a bottle of vodka to celebrate first September. As a result it was bad-quality product and they were in the intensive care that night. One of them can die that night. And the police can’t arrest the owner of that small shop where the girls have bought vodka. Schoolchildren drink beer and energy-alcohol drinks after classes. And this is more bigger problem than selling the strong alcohol drinks after 10 pm.

[Dmblock]

Lily, on 11 September 2011 - 12:38 PM, said:

I agree that it isn't a big problem. There is a big problem that young people can simply buy alcohol drinks. I read a story about two girls of 13 or 14 ears who bought a bottle of vodka to celebrate first September. As a result it was bad-quality product and they were in the intensive care that night. One of them can die that night. And the police can’t arrest the owner of that small shop where the girls have bought vodka. Schoolchildren drink beer and energy-alcohol drinks after classes. And this is more bigger problem than selling the strong alcohol drinks after 10 pm.

Thank you for your reply. In addition to this there are numerous countries which are using similar rules. It is well known that alcohol selling by retail without control in the USA is strongly forbidden. Unprincipled seller in this case has to pay a $1000 for this offense. When I was in NYC I was very surprised when a security guard in an ordinary pub checked up our driver's license. All of us were over 35 years old and we considered him to be a very odd person. However later we've been noticing such security behavior in almost every bar & pub in Manhattan. Routine passport checking is normal there.

[Cheetah]

Dmblock, on 14 October 2011 - 02:55 PM, said:

Thank you for your reply. In addition to this there are numerous countries who are using similar rules. It is well known that alcohol selling by retail without _________ strict control in the USA is strongly forbidden. Unprincipled seller in this case has to pay a $1000 for this offense. When I was in NYC I was very surprised when a security guard in an ordinary pub checked up our driver's license. All of us were over 35 years old and we considered him to be a very odd person. However later we were noticing such security behavior in almost every bar & pub in Manhattan. Routine passport checking is normal there.
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It's an interesting topic. I understand why so many people are against any intensification of the rules about alcohol selling.
But let's discuss another point of view: now beer is selling almost everywhere and it's legal. The vast majority of people doesn't think that something is wrong. Furthermore, most of teenagers (and adults too) now think that beer is almost like cola. Is it normal? I think that our government is trying to take some steps to avoid the situation when people with wrong sense of proportion are thinking that they are controlling the situation when they are "drinking a little beer".

I saw one very interesting example in the Top Gear program: Jeremy Clarkson told about his experience with driving after drinking a glass of good wine.
He told that he was very good in one of racing computer games (Unfortunately, I forgot the name of this game). All the lap records on almost all tracks in this game were made by Jeremy. And his stability of making good laps is really amasing: he can make lap times with the difference less than 0.05 seconds between them. These initial conditions make this experiment very fair and quite interesting.

Now about the experiment itself: Jeremy drank a glass of wine and made several laps on his favourite track. His time was 0.2 seconds worse than it was before drinking the wine. He couldn't do anything with this matter. His conclusion about this experiment was that alcohol strongly decreased reaction time while the man couldn't even feel it. Think about it twice before drinking any alcohol before any affairs requiring strong concentration.

[Old Toby]

See my recent post on gun control, everything I said in it applies to restrictions on the sale of alcohol just as well.

[Dmblock]

I just thought to add another point of view. The driver reaction time depends on many important things, for example, age, health condition, driver experience and others driver's individual characteristics. The place of alcohol in this list is not so obvious. Imagine two different drivers with very different characteristics. One of them is a decrepit old woman with a crutch and the other one is a sturdy guy who has drunk one bottle of beer. Both of them have a valid driver's license and they have the right to drive. Who would you choose to drive with?